I don’t use Nazi symbols

Written by thehouseofvines

As I said all the way back in 2023, I have conceded your point and stopped using Himmler’s Sonnenrad to represent the Black Sun. I use the Labyrinth or an Illyrian 8-point Sun Wheel, like so:

The ancient Illyrians, who were descendants of the exiled Kadmos and Harmonia and thus of the same bloodline as Dionysos, were not Nazis, nor were the Albanians, who suffered greatly under Ottoman occupation, during WWII and even worse under the communist regime they had to fight to free themselves from. Don’t besmirch Albanians just to score some imaginary points in a one-sided online argument.

If my use of the Black Sun is your only reason for thinking I’m a Nazi, you can stop. If you don’t think that the Sol Niger or Cor Ardens or Nyktelios experience has anything to do with Dionysos you should first educate yourself on what that actually signifies, and then take it up with him. And may he reveal that mystery to you in its fullness.

If there’s something else I’ve said or done that you feel is in error please have the courage and integrity to bring it up to me directly rather than talking about me. We all need correction, guidance and support at various times. I will listen, and give your words due consideration. I don’t know that we’ll end in agreement, but conversation is how real change is made in the world, not gossip and character assassination and blatant lies. That just hardens hearts and increases unnecessary strife in the world. If you love the Gods and want to see their worship flourish we have no beef.

15 thoughts on “I don’t use Nazi symbols”

  1. Honestly? I wouldn’t let this bother you. These are people that know nothing about you and don’t care to know. I openly invited people to look at your writings for themselves to see if they could find any advocacy for white supremacy. They refused. They legitimately don’t even care to learn more about the situation. I’d advise you to forget about it and just do what you plan on doing. You don’t need to prove yourself to people who won’t even bother to actually investigate your own words. I have always known that the vast majority of “Neopagans” and “Polytheists” don’t deserve your vision.

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    1. I’m just curious to see if any of them will step forward and actually engage with me. It’s not going to happen, so it is no impediment to my work. If these are people who believe I advocate for White supremacy when I don’t even identify as White and believe only the Gods are supreme not one’s genos or descent group, well, they certainly have a unique perspective on reality. As one who worships the God of madness I find such reality-adjacent post-truth perspectives interesting to study.

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      1. I mean we inhabit two completely different worlds. Mine is shaped by Orpheus, Homer, Plutarch, Nietzsche, Ivanov, Bataille, Morrison, Barker, etc. They live in an information bubble created by a corporate algorithm.

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              1. His work is in many respects an application of Bataille’s philosophy, which itself draws heavily on Nietzsche and the French théâtre de la cruauté and théâtre de l’absurde. As well as de Sade, obviously.

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                1. Even the movies reflect this. There’s a scene in one of the Hellraiser movies that is meant to be a direct homage to the same “Death of A Thousand Cuts” that inspired Bataille. Specifically in that there seems to be a slight smile on the victim before he is ripped apart

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      2. Nope, it won’t happen. I have engaged with the TDS folks, who simply ignore me or repeat the same canards. They are secure in their beliefs and do not want to engage except to yell at you. Fear rules.

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        1. Well, if they want to yell at me, that’s cool. I’ve worked graveyard shift at 7 Eleven in a sketchy neighborhood filled with homeless people and meth addicts. I really doubt they are going to do or say anything I haven’t already dealt with. So if it makes them better to engage in their daily hate ritual have at it. (Dystopian scifi isn’t supposed to be a how-to manual, but it sure feels like we’re living in a mash-up of several of them.)

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  2. My observation is that once it entered the stream as “Sannion is a Nazi,” it remained like the “Scarlet Letter.” Everyone refers to everyone else without checking anything out. They assume authority of the crowd (Other Directed). It is sad but I noticed that people segregate themselves and take on the assumptions of their group.

    I am reading “The Day After Trump” by Brian Talyor Cohen, who has made a living off of TDS. I am also reading “Trump 2.0” by Sean Spicer, Trump’s former press secretary. Both discuss the same person from opposite perspectives. Cohen simply repeats what MS-NOW and other say, but people say he is a deep thinker. His book has assumptions based on assumptions, with no footnotes or bibliography. So there is no trail of where his assertions come from. Spicer names names and cites sources. You can follow the bread crumbs. The deeper thinker is Spicer who uses a broad range of sources for his points. Cohen merely rehashes Trump is Satan, and must be destroyed along with his handmaidens – the Republicans. Spicer pleads the case that Trump is the Change that America needs, and backs it up with logic without demonizing anyone.

    My point is that the folks with SDS (Sannion Derangement Syndrome) have no desire to be educated. They assume they are the smartest and have the most virtue of anyone in the room. They are like Cohen’s book reviewers who say that Cohen wrote a great book that will end Trump’s threat once and for all.

    I would say that under all that bravado either Cohen’s or the SDS folks is fear.

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    1. Fear of me, or fear of Nazis? I don’t really see how either poses a serious threat to them. But if I am the evil they fear I probably wouldn’t see it. Damn, it must be interesting inside those people’s heads.

      Interesting point about the two books. I see that all the time. The weaker argument ends up convincing more people, often because it’s just reaffirming what they already believe. Or maybe because it is the less demanding argument, and therefore easier to follow and digest.

      People, man. I’m not sure what the Gods were thinking when they took a perfectly good monkey, amped its intelligence up, and its anxieties, and let it loose on the world.

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