Thoughts on Spider-Noir

16 thoughts on “Thoughts on Spider-Noir

    1. Normally I wouldn’t (even with Nicolas Cage in it) because I dislike super hero movies so much, but one of my former spiritual allies often appeared as a spider, and since I still have a soft spot for all things associated with her, and since she used the comic on more than one occasion to communicate with me, I watched it as much for nostalgia as anything else.

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      1. Fair enough. Interesting about spiders.

        I’m not sure i have a particular spirit animal. I have a fondness for many kinds of animals but truly appreciate seeing birds.

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        1. She was/is different than a spirit animal. For instance she could appear as a spider, a scorpion, a hanged woman, a dancing woman, or Saint Paul. I’m sure she has other forms too, but that’s how she came to me.

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          1. Saint Paul. You’ve said. That’s interesting.

            I think of Arachne’s tale. I think too of Saul’s personal role, according to Tradition, in moving the Greeks away from the Gods.

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            1. Tarantism is one of the strains that makes up the Starry Bull tradition. It was part of the phenomenon of “dancing madness” that swept through Europe roughly from the 12th to 16th centuries. Depending on the locale it could be associated with any number of different Saints. Usually it occurred in places that had had a strong Bacchic presence before Christianization. Some scholars argue for continuity (especially since there’s overlap in the symbols and practices) others that it was a completely distinct movement, a response to the societal pressures felt in those places. It often had a strong element of contagious madness about it, spreading from a single individual to affecting all the youths in a given community, and sometimes older people as well. The Saints that became associated with it could either cause the dancing madness or cure it (or both.) We find it most commonly in Italy, Spain and Germany, though there are other countries that have something similar though without the association with the bite of a spider or sting of a scorpion. If the cure (which usually involved setting up basins of water, scattering greenery all over the room, hanging a rope for the victim to swing from, and providing a band who would perform for days until the dancing had expelled the influence of the taranta) was not successful one option that remained was for the victim to ritually marry the Saint. (The commonest Saints associated with the phenomenon were Peter, Paul, Rocco and John the Baptist, though other regions had other Saints.) By the 1950s authentic Tarantism had pretty much died out in Italy due to a decline of belief in Catholicism, access to psychiatric treatment, and pesticides which largely killed off the spiders traditionally held to be responsible for the bite. At that point it morphed into folklore, and tarantellas were performed at weddings (like in Godfather), on feast days, and music festivals intended to draw in tourists and their money to impoverished regions of the country.

              [I believe we’ve discussed this before, but I’ve had a bunch of new folks follow me recently, and since I haven’t written on the subject in a while I figured it wouldn’t hurt to do a brief recap.]

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            1. It was very painful, but I could see the necessity in what she asked. She still has her place in the Bacchic pantheon and oversees a whole strain of the Starry Bull tradition. It’ll be my job to introduce any new members to her, should they be so called.

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  1. I really enjoyed it and I hate spider man movies and LOATHE noir (pacing issues for me). This was so well done with remarkable attention to historical detail and Nicholas Cage was fantastic in it– the only act that I could think of with the kinetic skill to play this would have been the late John Ritter but I don’t think he would have made a good spiderman. This casting was perfect. So now, I can say there IS a spider man movies (or in this case series) I like!

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    1. Yeahhh … I can’t really see John Ritter as a Spider Man, even one from an alternate reality, like in this series. He had the physicality, charisma, and comedic timing to play a superhero, but I’m just not sure which. Maybe Deathlok, Chameleon, Morph, or Vulture. (I don’t know if there are more modern characters he’d be better suited to play, as I haven’t kept up with comics.)

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  2. I myself just finished a brief ( 11 episodes ) slice-of-life anime series called “Bartender”. It features a young bartender named Ryu Sasakura the proprietor of an out of the way western style bar known as Eden Hall in the Ginza district of Tokyo. He is known as Kami no Garasu or The Glass of the Gods ( can’t get more Dionysian than that! ) due to his ability to know the exact drink a customer needs at that particular moment in their lives.
    It’s simple, relaxing, viewing and I definitely recommend it. Available on Prime Video.

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