Thursday, May 30 2013
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Not that I particularly care what Fox news thinks they could at least get their facts straight and leave us out their imagined plots against Christianity.
Has Fox news ever gotten their “facts” straight?
Don’t get me wrong: I think people should correct and counter lies and distortions when encountered — but demanding an apology? The nerve! Nobody has the right not to be offended. Every one of us should have the freedom to say whatever damn fool thing comes into our head, regardless of how someone else may take that, because free expression is the foundation of all of our other freedoms. If Pagans don’t get that, then they are no different than the folks in those pictures up there.
Here here! Thank you for being a voice of reason in a sea of self-righteous dick stroking. Shit like this is precisely why I dropped the “pagan” label. I am not trying to be connected to these people.
No kidding. Stuff like this just reaffirms my decision.
Forgot an “but and and “of” in that sentence. I need more coffee…
To be fair, though, there’s a huge difference between the Faux News statements and The Last Temptation of Christ. The former is an explicit statement against a religion, the latter is basically a fan-fic that, if the angered people had at least read the novel the film was based on, essentially affirms everything that most believers believe. Seriously, when I finally saw it, I was all “wait, Christians were protesting this? LOL, silly Christians…”
That said, I agree that demanding an apology is ridiculous cos, really now, it’s Faux News. Their women anchors and chat show personalities were grown in the same homunculus vat from which Paula Deen and her soulless gaze was grown (and each were given a choice, Deen was the only one who chose the One True Way of Righteousness, That Being the Way of the Butter, and it was good…), and their men were bred on a farm in Idaho and trained since their weaning to say only the stupid shit that money can buy. They’re infamous for their fauxpologies, and even those are few and far between. At this point, they’re more likely to issue a genuine apology for saying bin Laden made a sex tape with a goat, and not only is he dead, they never actually said that. One tends to be more successful in demanding a genuine apology from a cat who just took a crap in one’s shoe, and we all know how hard it is to get a cat to do damned near anything.
To counter, though, freedom of expression includes the freedom to demand an apology, no matter how unlikely one is to successfully gain one, and you and I are equally free to say it’s ridiculous to demand such a thing. ‘Tis the nature of the beast, dear.
Re: Last Temptation — that is one of the few instances where I think the movie was actually better than the book. I love me some Kazantzakis but damn that thing was a weird, jarring mess. Granted, I read it in my teens so I might have a greater appreciation of it these days, but somehow I don’t think so.
To counter, though, freedom of expression includes the freedom to demand an apology, no matter how unlikely one is to successfully gain one, and you and I are equally free to say it’s ridiculous to demand such a thing. ‘Tis the nature of the beast, dear.
Couldn’t agree with you more! They have every right to say whatever they want, to protest whomever they feel inclined to. I think protest is quite possibly the most pointless thing a person can do and I may think that they’re being silly and self-righteous in this case — it’s Fox News, people: you should be honored that they don’t like you — but I’d never argue that pagans or the nutjobs in the pictures above shouldn’t speak their minds (such as they are) and would be vehemently opposed to anyone who did. Not only is free expression the foundation for all other freedoms but, more importantly, it lets you know where a person stands — so that you can stand as far away from them as possible.
I thought about writing Fox a letter, then realized, it’s Fox News. Birds gotta tweet, pigs gotta oink, cows gotta moo, Fox News gotta make noises out of its face hole. Whatever.
ROFLMAO Well said.
Fox News anchors make stupid, bigoted, insulting remarks. In other news today, scientists are reporting that the sky is blue.
Those people demanding an apology actually seem *surprised* that this came out of Fox News.
Morons aren’t paying attention to the world around them –news at 11!
No shit. Where have these people been? I don’t own a television and yet I know perfectly well what Fox News is.
Reblogged this on The Darkness in the Light.
Asking that someone apologize for their ignorance and (deliberate) offensiveness is using *our* free speech, not infringing on his. Mr. Carlson doesn’t live someplace where he gets to make false and offensive statements and not get called on them. And here’s the thing: nobody is calling for laws to make insulting Paganism a crime. Tucker Carlson absolutely has the right to let the most appalling garbage fall off his lips…but those of us who may suffer ill effects from his opinions also have the right to voice our disagreement and call for him to stop being a jerk and apologize for his assinine statements.
Personally, my letter insisted that he should take five minutes to research facts instead of just making shit up from half-remembered nonsense, and that perhaps he should pull up his journalist pants instead of showing his butt in public (but said more politely, because manners.) And a public retraction wouldn’t have gone amiss, either.
Instead, we got a weaselly “I’m sorry if you were offended”. ::eyeroll::
Agreed. And I’m sure the Christians, Jews and Moslems feel the same. Ah, the fun of living in a multicultural society.
“Moslems”
Just fyi, my Muslim friends tell me they prefer ‘Muslim’ because the “Mozzz” sound in the other spelling is similar to a not-so-nice term in Arabic.
Multicultural society can be (heck, should be) awesome. I bend my Mom-frown on those who want to make it into a negative instead of a positive. (Dammit, why can’t we all just GET ALONG? Or at the least, if you’re going to disagree with a religion, at least disagree with what its adherents actually believe instead of something you made up.)
How funny! I’ll keep that in mind should I happen to meet any. But otherwise, I’m going to stick to the usage I see among academics I respect partly for that reason and partly for aesthetics. I just think Os and Es look better than Us and Is. Hence, why I’m such a strickler about Greek transliteration.